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Unlocking Your Inner Wisdom: Harness the Power of Human Design for Self-Love, Confidence, and Transformative Relationships with Emma Dunwoody
What if there was a roadmap designed to guide you toward self-love, self-acceptance, and unwavering confidence in every decision you make? This is where the magic of Human Design comes in, and my inspiring conversation with qualified Master Coach and Human Behavioral Specialist, Emma Dunwoody, explores its transformative potential. From healing her own mental health issues to becoming a master coach, Emma shares her incredible journey towards discovering and harnessing the power of Human Design.
The power of Human Design lies in its ability to align us with our true selves, resulting in healing our shadows, amplified manifesting, and easier access to our mission and purpose in life. Emma enlightens us on how to make decisions that serve our authentic selves first and foremost, creating a new paradigm of self-empowerment, sovereignty, and heart-centered creation. We also dive into the critical role of self-love and acceptance and how Human Design can help us prioritize and hold space for our relationships.
Moreover, we discuss how Human Design can transform intimate relationships, allowing us to love our partners (and children) for who they truly are, rather than who we think they should be. Emma shares how understanding Human Design has fostered healthier communication within her own family, empowering her as a parent and ultimately breaking generational cycles. Tune in and discover the life-changing potential of human design in healing parenting trauma, fostering self-worth, and unlocking your inner wisdom.
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[00:03:35] How Human Design can recondition the unconscious mind
[00:09:20] Why some may reject Human Design at first
[00:18:12] How your chart can help you experiment and discover your true gifts
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Welcome to the Stepping Into Meaningful Relationships podcast. I'm your host, carissa Stepp. I'm a relationship and human design coach, and this podcast is designed to help you create a stronger connection to yourself so you can transform the relationships around you, whether that be with your partner, a friend, a parent, a child or your business. We will be looking at relationships through the lens of human design, and my guests and I will bring you the tools, tips and tricks to create deeply meaningful connections with others. But first let's start with you. The most important relationship you have is the one with yourself. Thank you for tuning in. Now let's get to today's episode. Hey, everyone, welcome back to another episode.
Corissa Stepp:I am so excited to be chatting today with Emma Dunwoody. She is a qualified master coach and human behavioral specialist who wakes people up to the power within them using human design, a system of self-knowledge and guidance unlike anything else that exists. Her vision is to take human design mainstream so it becomes more widely accepted than any other global profiling, behavioral or healing system. She believes it will transform personal development, education and business forever. Emma wants to inspire everyone to unlock their inner wisdom, take their power back and feel deeply confident in the decisions they make. This will create a population that values themselves and courageously lives their truth, which will deliver us to a new paradigm of peace, joy and abundance. Emma, welcome to the podcast. Thank you so much for being here.
Emma Dunwoody:Thanks so much for having me. I am so excited to be here and I just love to talk about this topic. So yeah, let's do this.
Corissa Stepp:Awesome. So my listeners know I am very into human design. We've talked about it a few times on the podcast. I've had different guests that have come on where we've chatted about it. But I really would love to have this conversation with you, because when I first discovered human design, the first thing I did was I someone told me about it It was an intuitive And I hopped onto Google and I started Googling human design and, outside of running my chart, i think the next thing I found was your podcast. So Emma has this amazing podcast, the human design podcast.
Corissa Stepp:That, for me, was like a lifeline at a time where I felt seriously lost. I had no idea who I was. I woke up one day and I was like I don't know that the people around me even know who I am, because I'm not sure I know who I am. Like I don't know what happened to me, but I'm not the person I thought I was.
Corissa Stepp:I felt like I had lost my confidence. I had lost my authenticity of who I was. I felt like I was acting, like I was a different person depending on which group of people I was with, and I was like but who am I really? And human design was like this beautiful roadmap to help me connect back to who I am, and part of the reason why I had this experience that I'm explaining to you is because I had been enduring years of narcissistic abuse from a couple of different, very key relationships in my life, and so you know, emma, i know that it has had a big impact on you, but can you share with us a little bit with your story of human design, how you got into it and the impact that it's had on your life?
Emma Dunwoody:Yeah, i'd love to. And thank you so much for the feedback on the podcast. We get that all the time. You know, i do feel like it's very, you know, divinely guided. But I was divinely guided there. I had a podcast and I was guided via my human design to change the name of that and start focusing more on human design. So I definitely feel like it's that beacon that so many people are looking for And again, it's all there in my design.
Emma Dunwoody:But before I go too far down the rabbit hole, so the way I came to human design 20 years ago actually, I was diagnosed with depression and panic disorder And because of that diagnosis I started on this incredible journey to understand myself, my brain, my behavior, why I do what I do. Because I'd been given a diagnosis that I was going to live with this for the rest of my life And unfortunately, i was experiencing so much pain every day that that just wasn't an option. If I was, you know if the leading expert where I lived was telling me that I was just going to have to learn to manage my mental health issues, but I would never heal them, that just wasn't an option. So that was the catalyst for me really diving into what started with happiness, but then, of course, it led to neuroscience and understanding the brain, and that led to behavior and that led to spirituality and quantum physics, and I just went so deep down this hole And ultimately, i did heal my own mental health. I 100% and no longer experience any sort of panic attack, let alone panic disorder. I very rarely experience any anxiety well, free of depression because I understood that I had to rewire my brain, so I did that. However, in 2018, i was like well, i've completely changed my life. I've, you know, i've left the advertising industry. I've retrained to become a master coach, i've healed my relationship. I've had two incredible children. I have this little business that's growing on the side that you know I never have to market and it just continues to do well. Surely, i should feel better than this And I had this real like for all the years and all the work that I've put in. Why do I still feel like this on the inside?
Emma Dunwoody:And that was like my next catalytic or defining moment that sent me on this journey to actually pick up human design. Because it had been shown to me a number of times by a couple of different people And each time I'd put it down because it was really negative And because I was so conscious of my belief systems and the way I construct, construct my reality and my unconscious mind. I didn't want all this negative talk in my head. I was like that's not serving me because I don't want to manifest that reality. However, i made a promise to the universe after walking an 800 kilometer pilgrimage. I was like, okay, please just show me my purpose.
Emma Dunwoody:And the thing that kept coming up after that you know declaration to the universe was human design, human design, human design.
Emma Dunwoody:So I chose to commit 100% to my own experiment. I also chose to not take on board the negative language of human design and actually start to just run the experiment to discover what was true for me. And well, that was the window in which I climbed through to really start to discover what I call transformational human design, which really integrates all the reconditioning of the unconscious mind to be in alignment with your design And ultimately led me to this place where I literally live, my heaven on earth. I live in the most incredible place on the planet with my soulmate, best friend, amazing human, with two children like a 15 and 11 year old, that are so happy and loving and balanced and self empowered And you know, i live beyond my wildest dreams already and have a massive mission, which really lights me up. So, yeah, human design was that missing piece that really gave me the full permission to be me and create the reality that I really want to create in my heart, not the one that I thought I should because of all the books I'd read.
Corissa Stepp:Yeah, no, that's beautiful. I love that. And you know, one of the things that I feel like a lot of times in human design when people come across it at first, they think it's like you know, oh, it's just going to label me or it's just going to put me in a box, or it's just going to tell me who I am, and it's like would I tell people all the time. It's like I can look at your chart and I could probably know a lot of things about you by reading it, but you're the one who brings it to life and there's different, you know, expressions of all of that energy.
Corissa Stepp:So like I can sit here and I can tell you and be like, okay, these are some of your natural talents and gifts that I can see by looking at your chart.
Corissa Stepp:But like you get decide what you want to do with them and how you're using them in your life and how you're using them to serve people, right, because it's like the gifts that we have and the talents that we have are here to serve other people. So you know. Back to when you were talking about like, oh, it's all in my chart, right, it's like, well, you decided, you know, you know what your mission is based on, what you already know is your gift or what your gifts are according to your chart, which is like a beautiful, beautiful thing, and so like one of the things that I love talking about is like bringing people back into alignment with who they are, because a lot of people do get to this point, i think, where they're just struggling and they just don't know their purpose and they don't know which direction to go in, and it's like they don't know where to find the answers, what the answers are within them.
Emma Dunwoody:Yeah, and that's it Like, and I think like there's so much there that you just said that I just love to respond to. I want to start with. You know people worrying about human design, putting them in a box. One of the things that I've done for years before human design is I'm a profiler, which means that I'm trained in a number of different human behavior or personality profiling tools, and I have walked into so many corporate environments with a room full of arms arms crossed and people going you can't tell me who I am to only help them unlock their wisdom that lies within them.
Emma Dunwoody:And I think that so often people reject, i think, human design. For me, the reason I rejected it which is what I believe is a lot of the reason why a lot of people will reject it is because they're resisting themselves, like I didn't like what I was hearing, because I either wasn't willing to step in and own the powerful parts of it or I wasn't willing to step in and face the shadow parts of it. So my resistance to my design was only another fractal, was only another example, another projection of where I was resisting myself, where I thought being me wasn't enough. I had to be this other version of me that everyone else told me was successful or happy or loving, instead of this version of me that this roadmap gave me the permission slip to actually experiment with and see if that felt true for me. So I feel like a lot of people that reject any of these things. It's because they're rejecting so much of themselves They're really resisting even knowing who they are and what they want, and I think that that is so incredibly important that all we need is to have an open mind.
Emma Dunwoody:A growth mindset is all about having an open mind, possibility, curiosity, instead of being fixed and judgmental and critical, because in that mindset, there's no way we're ever going to be able to fully step in and know ourselves, because we're so afraid of change. I mean, the ego doesn't want to change, it's its greatest fear. Whereas if we can be open minded to this journey and just say, okay, cool, well, let's experiment, because that's all human design is, it's an experiment. And if we can experiment and then just get results okay, does this make my life better? Great, then I'm going to keep doing it. I'm going to make my life worse? Okay, well, i'm not going to do that anymore. So actually putting you back in the power seat as opposed to.
Emma Dunwoody:I think one of the big things that, from my behavioural coaching experience, is the challenge was that we would help all these clients with their profile, but then they needed me to help them understand it or to coach them through it, or whatever it might be. So, yeah, with human design, yes, it's really helpful to have someone that's more, that's an expert, so that they can help you understand the details, but it also gives you the simplest part, which is strategy and authority. So if you can just practice those things, then you can guide yourself. And again, with transformation or human design, i really put the two together. So I give you everything that really helps people map it back to their behaviour, to their unconscious mind, their belief systems, so that they can really tap into the depths of the greatness that lies within them.
Corissa Stepp:I love that.
Corissa Stepp:I love that for so many reasons because so some of the work that I do is I use EFT a lot in conjunction with human design.
Corissa Stepp:It's actually part of Karen Curry Parker's Quantum Alignment System, which kind of does a lot of that work too, where you kind of can look at the chart and you understand, you know where potentially someone might be struggling or what their pain point is and how it ties back to a limiting belief, and then we can go through and we can reprogram and rewrite and rewire those neural pathways which really at the end of the day, like, if you want to make any significant changes, you have to do it at the subconscious level, right, you can't just consciously change it.
Corissa Stepp:And yeah, you know I've had this conversation before on the podcast. But like, this is why I believe that affirmations don't really work, because in some ways it's almost like you can sit here and you can affirm all these things like I am beautiful, i am smart, i am this, i am that, but like, if you don't actually subconsciously believe that, what I think happens is there's almost a disconnect and it's almost like an incoherence between the conscious mind and the subconscious mind And really what you're doing is you're eroding yourself trust.
Emma Dunwoody:Yes.
Corissa Stepp:Because you're yourself is not like I can trust everything you're saying, because what you're telling me is true. It's like Nope, i don't believe this. This isn't true. There's a belief somewhere back here that's telling me that that's not true, and I have evidence to prove it, because we have a negative confirmation bias, right, yeah.
Emma Dunwoody:I love that And it's the science is in, it's actually proven. It's that that if the gap is too big between where you are and the perceived affirmation, that it's actually having a negative consequence. And so one of the things we have to be so cautious of with things like affirmations is how do we feel when we say it. And I think that, through the frame of human design, what human design really teaches us to do is to trust the subtle energies that within us, as opposed to putting all of our trust in authorities that lie out external of us. So in this situation, it's really interesting. I was just saying to my husband just moments ago I was like Wow, i've got the ultimate body pack, like it's just been fantastic. Just as a throw on my comment And that was about, you know, two months ago I was like that's it, i'm done. I am no longer criticizing my body in any way, i am instead just going to love it every single time, and this has been on and off for me my entire life. My mother she was never technically diagnosed as an anorexic, but definitely demonstrates all the behavior you know, definitely a way that she tried to control her life when she felt out of control, all of those things. So I had a lot of those sort of body image issues growing up especially, and I've worked through a lot of them. But what I think is really fascinating is it's like we have to understand how we feel about the affirmation. So one of the things for me is I've been working on self love and acceptance for many, many, many years 20 years in fact And so when I decide in that moment with conviction because we need conviction and we need commitment, you know we need integrity, we need to, it needs to be in alignment with who we really are Like. So when I decide, that's it, it's done, and I literally have seen so many changes in my body in a really short period of time, like it's almost even though I've been doing the same exercise for over a year now, like going to a personal trainer and doing all these other things. It's like all of a sudden, my muscles are just you know that my muscle density is just increased and my stomach is flatter and you know the less dimples on my butt and stuff like that.
Emma Dunwoody:And I do believe that that affirmation has a huge, it's playing a huge role because it's telling my, my body how to heal and how to be. However, i had to become the identity of that person that could just pick up that belief and have that, you know, really powerful transformation within my body. I also have a lot of evidence, as you were talking about, a lot of evidence that I can heal my body. I've done a few things like really crazy, amazing, had experiences with healing my own body, like almost seemingly overnight healing a break that if I'd sought help it would have been a massive thing. It wasn't a massive thing because I healed it myself, and this is just my story.
Emma Dunwoody:But I also think, just bringing that back to human design, one of the fundamental drivers, i believe, is just learning to trust yourself, to be your own authority, to be your own guru, and then the more that we can trust that, the more all these other tools amplify, because we're in alignment with our energy. Our energy is in alignment with our unconscious mind, which is this incredible supercomputer that creates our reality, or helps us create our reality. We're in alignment with our heart, which is that you know, like our biggest electromagnetic field, that that emanates from us, and we're in cohesion And, ultimately, for any success or abundance or freedom in any area of any living system is cohesion. We have to have cohesion, so I feel like that is so much of it. Human design gives us the ability to really bring all the parts of ourselves into cohesion and amplify all the other strategies and methods that are correct for us.
Corissa Stepp:I love that, and I also just wanted to point out that, like, not only did you have to become the person right in order to make that you know affirmation kind of true, you were also taking the action too. So that's, i think, also a key difference right Like you weren't just saying an affirmation and then not doing anything to make that be true. Exactly. It kind of leads into like manifesting. Like to me. it's like as you were talking, i was like this also sounds like manifesting to me too.
Emma Dunwoody:Yeah, i think for me, i have amplified my ability to manifest tenfold since being in alignment with my design. And you know, a lot of people will say, well, what's what's the one thing, and there isn't one thing. Well, i suppose the one thing is just being more in alignment with my design, like really giving myself full permission to be who I am. Like, one of the things for my design is you know, one of my most prominent energies is all about community. Yet I'm an only child, introvert, manifesting generator, so I'm energetically independent. There's so much of me that I have the Gate 40, which is the Gate of Aloneness, and these people will tend to want to do things on their own. So I have all of this energy within me. That is very self isolating. Yet where my greatest gifts lie are actually in community. So if I hadn't had my human design, i would never fully have lent into community as much as I have lent into it. And what's happened is that I've seen more of myself, expressed more of myself, access more of my greatness. I am more aligned to my impact, my mission, my purpose than I could have ever been if I was still trying to create my purpose from my mind. Because one of my favorite things about human design and being a profiler is that when we do other behavioral or personality profiles, like I don't know, like Myers-Briggs or Disk Profiling or Enneagram, which is huge at the moment you have to answer questions, so you have to go via the mind, the conscious mind, and try to access the subconscious mind. But what that does is it gives us this huge cognitive dissidence, like, yes, we all know that we've done a personality test and we're like, yeah, that's me. Oh, except for this, or what about that. Whereas with human design, the cognitive dissidence isn't there because we don't get the access through the unconscious mind. We don't have to answer questions about who we are. We actually are just getting a snapshot of a moment in time, of all the energy that is impacting this soul, this body, when we were born, and that means that the mind isn't getting involved, a personality is not getting involved and identity is not getting involved, which helps us to really go okay, cool.
Emma Dunwoody:How does that feel? This is a large part of my transformational human design is really getting out of the head and into the body. So what does that mean? What does that feel like? Because if I was still doing things the way I was doing things, i would never have realized how much I love being in community because I was thinking my feelings. Like so many people. I was back there, thinking my feelings. Thinking my feelings in alignment with my identity and my conditioning and all those things that are unconscious, whereas with human design, what it's really helped me do is go. Oh yeah, i really love that thing, but my greatest shadow is feeling unsupported.
Emma Dunwoody:And when I could own that, yeah, that is the thing. That was the one thing that I would say, that the first thing I would always say especially depression and panic disorder, whenever a lot of time was hard, that's the thing I would say. So that gave me the resonance like, yes, this is a massive player for me, which then also gave me permission to look deeper into that and say, wow. So if that's really true, then is this whole community thing true And I would lean into it. And all of a sudden, i would notice that I'm always creating these communities around me. I'm always empowering people and supporting people within that community. My family is my highest value, for goodness' sake, and this is very, very family-oriented energy.
Emma Dunwoody:So I had been literally deleting what we could say in NLP, it's like we're either deleting, distorting or generalizing information that isn't in alignment with our identity. So I was just deleting, distorting and generalizing the truth like my gift. I was just pushing it away and in fact, trying to change it. So I feel like human design is this powerful thing where we can stop bsing ourselves. We can. We're given a map, we can experiment with it. We can say is that true for me? Run the experiment and then go wow, that is really true for me And I wouldn't have picked it If I was left to just follow my mind.
Emma Dunwoody:Or for me because I'm a very pragmatic, practical person as much as I'm very spiritual and I also very into this. Yeah, exactly right. But there's this part of me that I just it needs to be really clear And I've. You know the way I see the world is through actions and specificity. So I think that this was the thing for me, like if people would say we'll just be heart led. Well, how do I do that? exactly, like I know if something feels good or if I know, i know that with when I'm in love, and I know those things. But I always wanted another level of specificity or practicality to it. So again, i think human design is this piece that just brings it all together so beautifully.
Corissa Stepp:Yeah, no, i totally agree. And you know I love how you brought up like Enneagram and Myers-Briggs and all that stuff, because I know that even for me, like when I've taken those tests or answered those questions, it's kind of like, well, am I answering that question for like the last few years after I've had like a big transformation, or do I answer this for what's been true for the majority of my life, when I was still half asleep? I call it like my zombie years. you know, yeah, it depends and it depends on my mood and what I'm feeling or how I'm thinking in that day or whatever. And it's so hard to get like a real good handle on. you know the answer for each question and then feels like very overwhelming to me. So, like I love human design, it's like just you just need your birth date, time and place.
Emma Dunwoody:Yeah, i think so many of them are also really anchored in science. That we know is untrue, and that is that we were told that neuroplasticity wasn't a thing after the age of 25, that we couldn't change our brain, that we couldn't change our behavior. So a lot of behavioral and personality tests, they're all dependent on that And it's just not true That it's. It was actually not right, correct at the time. I was listening to this great podcast just the other day. It wasn't true at the time And now we really know that it's not true that neuroplasticity continues throughout our entire life. Like, yes, there's a, there's a little bit of, you know, a little drops, drops off, but not much at all.
Emma Dunwoody:So again, with all of these other profiling tools, there's this assumption that we don't change And that's just not true. Like we can change on a dime if we really have to, if we really want to. You know, like if we're faced with life or death and we have to change our behavior, we work unconsciously. We will switch our behavior in two seconds. We will have no problem with that. So it's also it's a really misleading idea that we're going to be this one linear person, and I feel like human design really helps us see all the possibilities within that.
Corissa Stepp:Yeah, i completely agree Because, again, like there's high expressions, there's low expressions, there's everything kind of in between. I also think, like when you look at your chart, it's like it can be very overwhelming at first because there's so much information and there's so many layers to it. But the more you kind of peel back the layers, you do start to see these like big themes coming through that you're like, okay, like now, like it makes sense, like I can see the bigger picture. And if I want to drill down into certain aspects of it, i can. But I think it's just super helpful to even just understand those bigger themes. But, like, to your point, you know and this is what I say to people too it's like if you really want to start just living your life in alignment, just following that's, your strategy and your authority are going to get you. They're just going to get you there now. They're just going to get you there.
Corissa Stepp:Naturally, even if you don't know anything else about your chart, it's completely fine, of course. I think that, like there's other elements that are helpful for giving you that permission slip to fully step into who you are. But you know, just even like knowing how you're meant to make big decisions is huge. Like I kind of look at it now and I'm like, oh my God, how did I make big decisions before? It's like I think that a part of me did what I thought felt right, but because there was so much conditioning around doing things the way other people expected me to, or doing things in a way that I thought, you know, showed that I was successful or that I was smart, even if it wasn't something that I wanted to do, but it felt like the bigger opportunity, you know. And then I can see how that played out in my life after the fact. You know, not very well, yeah, you know. And so it just takes so much pressure off.
Emma Dunwoody:Yeah, Yeah, we're so conditioned to make decisions in a way that serves the other, and that's just it. We are conditioned to make decisions that serve other people, not ourselves, because there is this misconception that if we think of ourselves first, that we're selfish, and that's not actually true at all. We've in fact been conditioned that way very deliberately, so that we're obedient, so that we do what we're told. From the moment we start school, the moment we're in a family, the family is conditioning us to be obedient, do what you're told, you know, conform, make decisions that take care of everybody. But it's this massive, it's so counterintuitive. But when we prioritize ourselves first, then we are actually so much more in service to the whole. This isn't narcissism, this isn't saying like, because narcissism in fact isn't putting yourself first in a resourceful way. It's actually trying to prove to anyone else that you are the most significant, that you need to be seen and heard and that your opinion is the most important. But if we go underneath that, the only reason a narcissist does that is because they feel unworthy, unloved, that they don't matter, that they're insignificant, which drives this really extreme behavior. But what we're saying is that the important thing is if we can get to the core of ourselves and if we can learn to make decisions that are in alignment with us, then not only are we serving ourselves, but we're serving our loved ones, our partners, our families, our communities, our business, our audience, the planet, because we're coming from this place of truth or authenticity and flow And when we come from that place, then everything becomes easier.
Emma Dunwoody:Everything just kind of turns up, and for many years I was like, yeah, i'm not trying to really believe that, but I live that right now. You know, i'm just. I was just talking to my husband about a decision, a big decision that that I'm making, and it's something that I thought about and I thought, oh yeah, i'll consider doing that next year. And the universe has bought everything just in alignment, like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And I'm asking myself, like as part of transformational human design. I have these really core questions that we need to be asking ourselves all the time, and one of them is if I wasn't afraid, what would I do And I would go ahead, this thing that I thought I wasn't going to do and I would just put it off, and everybody else's priorities need to be taken care of first. Actually, if I wasn't afraid and, you know, get into my body and I'm sitting with my emotional authority. What would I do? I'd be like, all right, i just do it, i just go.
Emma Dunwoody:So I think that this is so important to understand that once we can really connect into the truth for ourselves, we then have this capacity, this huge potential for greatness, to serve the planet. And, from a human design point of view, like we're creating this new paradigm, like right here, right now, we are creating this new world that we're moving into. And do we want to create this new world from a place of being empowered, being a sovereign being, you know, making choices for yourself and supporting others from the heart, creating from the heart, creating from truth? Or do we want to continue the way we've been conditioned to do it for, you know, hundreds, thousands of years, to do it from fear, like no. It's time for us to be letting go of this whole fear driven reality.
Corissa Stepp:Yeah, i was going to say we've been coming, we've, we've already done that. We've already done everything from a place of fear. Now it's time to move into a new place and coming from a place of love. Right, and we can only come from a place of love if we have a healthy sense of love for ourselves. First. Exactly, and again like to your point to delineate between narcissism, you know, which is like an unhealthy love of self, and a healthy sense of narcissism. Right, because we all have a little narcissism in us.
Corissa Stepp:Right, that healthy sense of self love comes from really radically accepting who we are, which can be very difficult if you don't know who you are to begin with, or if you don't feel comfortable making these decisions and showing up authentically every single day and every single way, with every decision that you make, every interaction that you have, every experience that you're getting.
Corissa Stepp:You know, putting your time and your energy into it's so, so important. And the other thing that I was going to say is, like you're so speaking to your design, because that Gate 40, again it's it's about retreating right And restoring yourself and putting that time and energy to. You know, fill your cup back up before you're able to go back out into community and give from that overflow, right Like in quantum human design. It's like the gate of restoration You can't give to everyone else until you fill your own cup, and that's you know. I think it's so beautiful to hear you talk about this because I'm just like, oh my God, she's just shining her, her you know sun energy out into the world and leading us all forward.
Emma Dunwoody:Yeah, and I think that that's like that permission piece is so important. You know, like I've grown a very successful seven figure business, that I have the most incredible team. I run a team of experts that are all like their own leaders in their own rights And we're having a massive impact on the planet. And before all of that, i've created a business that actually is in alignment with me. You know, like we are working with a consultant at the moment and the question is do you know how you work best? I'm like absolutely.
Emma Dunwoody:Let me give you all the details, and one of the big things for me is like I love to work in sprints. You know, i love to head down, bum up, hustle. I love to hustle. I love it in a really resourceful way, not from fear, but from like I love that sense of achievement. I'm a manifesting generator. I have the 3420. And then I literally want to do nothing. I don't want to see anyone, i don't want to be in anyone's energy, i want to just be a total bum. I want to be lazy, i want to sit and binge things on Netflix, and there's been part of me that's been so because I'm a high, high achiever. I've always the things that I've been passionate about, i've always excelled at, and there's this part of me that's like Oh my God, i'm lazy And human design has given me that full permission to be this massive, hustling, high, achieving, impactful, human and the lazy sloth. When I want to be the lazy sloth, you know, and everything within my life, and I know that you talk a lot about it.
Emma Dunwoody:And not feeling guilty for it Exactly, and not feeling guilty for it And giving yourself that. you know, that ability to be like, no, that's actually my superpower, you know that that's my superpower. But yeah, yeah, and it's been a massive, just really quickly on the whole relationship piece, like it's been a massive thing within my marriage because before human design I was, you know, i was studying, i was growing a part time business, you know, corporate consulting, coaching business. I had two young children. My husband was working a big corporate job. He wasn't around like half the year. He was traveling and just juggling everything and just feeling so lost, like, like, how can I be on the right track and be so far off the path? I was so confused by it.
Emma Dunwoody:And then human design came along And of course the universe gave us opportunities. and my husband's a projector and I'm an MG and he took an opportunity. He took a retrenchment package because the business that he's working for was downsizing. He's like, yeah, i'll take one. You know there was a good package And in that moment I was like, oh well, i'll take over.
Emma Dunwoody:because my human design was like my sorry, my authority was like Yeah, you've got this. And in that moment I just trusted my design And if I trusted my mind, my mind is like, um, where are you going to find $350,000 in the next 12 months? But my, my design was like, yeah, do it. If I was lit up, i was excited And of course, we did it. We just easily did it.
Emma Dunwoody:So I think that this is the other piece that in relationships is so incredibly powerful because you start to treat the people that you love as they're designed to be treated, as opposed to the way you want to be treated because it's different to them. And, being a parent, this has been the game changer for my kids. I saw really understanding each other's design and not in great detail, just understanding our type and our strategy, our authority, maybe understanding out like both my boys understand their incarnation cross and a bunch of things that really help us hold space for the people that we love as they are, not as we think they should be, and I think that is so incredibly profound and such a great gift that human design gives us.
Corissa Stepp:Yeah, i mean even, just like you know, to piggyback off of that. It's like oftentimes we want to. We want to receive love from the people that we love in the way that we would give it to them, right, and so that can be a disconnect to not to talk about, like the love languages and everything, but you know.
Corissa Stepp:I know.
Corissa Stepp:but it's like it's true, though right, like we treat other people the way we would want to be treated, but sometimes it's like they need something else in the relationship to feel safe, to feel seen, to feel heard or to feel supported. And it might be very different than what you know we need. And so looking at someone's you know, your partner's human design chart, or even looking at your children's, can very quickly help you sort of identify, like well, what you know, how would this feel for them, right? And then ask the question, like is this how you want to feel supported? Because I'm sort of seeing this. you know you've got this dynamic in your chart or you've got this energy in your chart, you know, does this help you feel seen? So I would love to kind of now dive more deep, you know, deeper into, like, your experience with your relationship, because I know that you know you have had some struggles and you guys turned things around, and I'd love to kind of understand a little bit more about, maybe, how human design played into that for you guys.
Emma Dunwoody:Yeah, i love that. Yeah, human design has played a massive, massive role. And really even understanding, like I have these codependent tendencies because my mom's a narcissist And you know, i'm married and she's also a projector, she's an ego projector which also made me really understand her, like, well, of course she'd have not narcissistic tendencies if she's operating from the shadow because she's an ego projector. Projectors are here to be seen and recognized and her authority is her ego. So it's like, oh my God, that makes sense. You know, it makes sense to me And it just means that she's operating from her shadow, from her fear, as opposed to her superpowers.
Emma Dunwoody:So in relationship, of course, i always went for the codependent role, you know, like the martyrdom role, like I'll do everything, it's okay, i'll do everything, and I didn't need any recognition and I could juggle all the things. And then I married this man who needed all this recognition, you know because and I was just like, well, you need to just get on with it, just get on with it, And there would be so many things. One of the little stories that the metaphor that I use a lot is driving. So we would drive a lot of long distances because we had family down the coast And he would always like he'd be in the car for half an hour and he'd need a nap. And I was like, for goodness sake, like I can drive for 10 hours without having a sleep. What's going on? And it was that whole thing really understanding our energy Like he's a projector, he needs a nap, like he just doesn't work the same way that I work. And then when we started to break that down within the relationship and understanding that he needs to be seen and acknowledged from just from the projector point of view and that I actually need energetic independence, so just because often it'll look like on the outside I don't need you, sometimes I want you. So he has to make the you know we always talk about MG's really needed champion because they rarely ask for one. And so he had to understand, especially with my 37 and the shadow being feeling unsupported. You know, like he, that was a big part of our marriage because I felt really unsupported by him. But of course, before human design we just didn't have the same language Like we would have an I mean, i'm a really good behavioral coach. So we did a lot of diving into things and we transformed our relationship one time before human design and upgraded it and healed it and all those sort of things.
Emma Dunwoody:But once we had human design, we could go into these real nuances and really understand each other on a much deeper level so that we could understand, like even we recently had a retreat, an in-person retreat here in Byron Bay, and one of the things that would have just like irritated me in the past was, every time Justin comes into the room or leaves the room, you know he has to be seen, He just wants to be seen and recognized, and before human design I'd be like, oh, get over yourself. Whereas now I'm the first person to say everyone say bye to Justin, you know. And just to watch him light up, to watch him like, oh my God, i'm being seen, i'm being recognized, i'm being valued. Just to be able to help that human really be in alignment for why he's here is incredibly powerful And I mean in the same breath, like really helping me flip my energy from being this part-time everything to being this full-time business or entrepreneur and being able to do it on my own terms, which is a lot of my design.
Emma Dunwoody:You know, like I'm never going to fit into any any, even a resemblance of a box. I'm just not designed that way. So being able to be an entrepreneur and do this work and love this work and raise my children like that's the other thing for me is like my children go where I go. So anything that I anything to do with my work, my kids are going to be there with me. You know, if we have to go somewhere or do something, they're very much around all the time. So it's been hugely powerful, like really understanding how to love each other the way that we need to be loved Yeah, on every level.
Corissa Stepp:I love that, and it sounds to me even like it allowed you guys to have Better communication too, because then it's like oh, okay, now I understand what you need now.
Corissa Stepp:I can ask you like like I think you know I understand, but like let me make sure, right, because it's like then you know how to even like ask each other questions, right? So like Justin can probably ask you like a lot of yes or no questions for you to kind of get to your truth. If you're kind of talking about stuff and you can ask him a lot of open-ended questions, yeah, help him get to his clarity by talking things through yeah, and knowing that like he doesn't need you to give him advice or Suggestions or anything like that.
Corissa Stepp:It's more of like you're there to be the sounding board. Yeah, and just listen.
Emma Dunwoody:Yeah, and I think a big part of that as well like He would often look to me for permission or guidance or Even coaching, whereas human design really gave me that opportunity just to flip it back on him, you know, like he's a 6-2 profile so and, which is amazing, you know, he's just coming down off the roof now and Watching him just be this frickin role model, like wherever he goes, he's like the pied piper, but also being able to Really help him and hold space for him to understand that, for him to lean into that line two of years, to really own that His natural talents, like what comes easy, because again, he's so conditioned to to hustle and the things need to be hard and it's everything's challenging And if it's not a struggle then it's not worth doing, and for him That's not true, it's absolutely not true. So That that piece as well has been really powerful within our relationship, being able to communicate like I'm a line three and he's a frickin 6-2 projector. So he's always got an opinion. He's always like, oh, you could do this differently or you could do this better. But I'm like, babe, you know, i need to like run into the wall a few times before I'm actually gonna ask for advice. So Also giving each other space. You know, i don't put pressure on him anymore to do a thousand things at once or drive two hours, you know, or all of those things, and in the same breath he actually probably holds his tongue a lot more. He lets me, you know, do the trial and error. He lets me, you know, be my own hero. It lets my line five come in and solve my own problems and waits for me to come to him to ask for advice or for guidance, or what he sees or doesn't see.
Emma Dunwoody:The other thing that's been so powerful is parenting. You know, for me, being an MG with two MG kids, i can constantly respond like I'm constantly, were just always in response with each other. Whereas Justin's very aware that he asks, he actually says can I offer something? Would you like to hear what I have to say? I have something I'd love to add. Could I add it? You know, he'll actually speak to them in this way, and when he doesn't, when he just gives his projector wisdom, the kids just recoil in the other direction. So it's been very powerful as a parent as well, and you know both of us have very close relationships with our children as well, and I think that human design and us having those, you know, those guidelines, those, those nuanced truths about ourselves has been the thing that's really, really helped us connect, communicate and Love each other individually for who we really are.
Corissa Stepp:The one thing that I wanted to point out is that it also sounds to me like it helped you heal your codependency right, because when we're codependent, we will often seek validation and approval from other people before we take action, or we make sure that whatever we're doing, we're doing it, it's gonna serve the other person right, it's gonna make them happy, because if they're happy, then we can be happy, right?
Corissa Stepp:Or our happiness and you know, basically depends on someone else being happy too, and so I love that. You know, you realize and recognize that you have to do things your own way And you don't have to get that outside validation or approval first, and that changes The relationship dynamic. So much because codependency really is a habit, yeah, and it's hard to break a habit if it's a, you know, a pattern that's existed for so long. But knowing that you are meant to be independent and you're meant to try a lot of different things and experiment and explore And getting to like, have that permission to do it that way, i feel like that's almost like it's almost like a shortcut to cutting, you know, cutting out of that codependency triangle of, yeah, being the martyr or the fixer, or the rescuer and all that You know I'm relying on someone else to give you that approval first before you move forward?
Corissa Stepp:Yeah, Yeah it's amazing.
Corissa Stepp:I think that's beautifully said, beautifully said, yeah so, emma, i want to talk to you a little bit more about, well, relationships.
Corissa Stepp:But you know, even just Something that I've done like I've done a lot of just like looking at the chart and understanding, like, kind of, where codependency even sits in The chart. Right, because there are elements and there are certain gates and there's certain configurations that can really, when I look at a chart and I see them, i know I'm like up, they have a tendency towards people pleasing or towards you know, codependency or maybe playing the martyr. So I'd love to kind of chat with you a little, with you a little bit about that, if that's okay. Yeah, maybe patterns that you recognized or energies that you recognize in the chart, that kind of like would clue you in too. Because, like the first thing that I'm just gonna say, it's like having an open or undefined emotional solar plexus. It's like, alright, you feel everyone else's emotions, yeah, so deeply you're gonna amplify them back, and so it feels a lot better when you're able to make other people happy, because when they're happy you could feel happy.
Emma Dunwoody:Yeah, i think a lot of it In my experience, like the. So a lot of the open centers right The a lot of the open centers are gonna be places that we can get unnecessarily attached, because what we're doing is we're feeling and amplifying and reflecting back someone else's energy. But in most cases, unless we're Across human design, we don't realize that that is someone else's energy. So what happens is that we make that a part of our identity and we try and fix it or change it or solve it So that we can feel better. But the truth is there's nothing we can do to feel differently, unless we change our belief systems or our understanding that that is somebody else's energy. It's not ours in the first place. So one of the challenges- is a responsibility.
Emma Dunwoody:Yeah, exactly, you know one of the risks, that one of the challenges for a reflector, let's say, is there they're looking for consistency, they're looking for something that you know feels safe and reliable. So they can be potentially quite codependent because that energy of their partner is a consistency that they can feel. Now does that mean that all reflect as a codependent? No, because the results for ones are the opposite, the results for like Oh, i don't, i don't need that sort of consistency, i'm quite a, i'm quite okay if that that energy shifts and changes. And I know for me I've got a wide open G center. So a large part of my fear when I was younger was like my god, if I'm not like them, then I won't be lovable. Yet with my wide open G center, what I've discovered is that I'm a win. Like I, i'm winning. It doesn't matter where I go, i'm gonna reflect back the energy of the people that I'm with, so I'm gonna actually fit in everywhere.
Emma Dunwoody:But before I understood human design, i didn't have that belief system that supported me, so I was constantly in fear of rejection. So I just self-isolated. So I think a lot of things when we understand our undefined centers and we move from being, from a fear state, or what human design called the not self or the, in many cases the deeper conditioning. Then we start to shift to this ability to be able to feel and empathize other people's energy, but not make it our own. Then we can start to release a lot of that. I also think that You know what are the belief systems, what are the patterns and what's being embedded in us.
Emma Dunwoody:One of the things that I see so often is Undefined wheel center. If you have an undefined wheel center, then what I hear so often with women especially trying to really Connect to their self-worth is, in so many cases They are so intrinsically entangled with their mother's self-worth because of this imprinting of this. You know this, this real Intrinsic Whatever the word is I've lost the word now but that, that, that impregnation measurement Yeah, exactly a measurement, exactly the word I was looking for of Another person's self-worth. But the thing is that's not your self-worth. It's just that you spend your entire Life almost trying to prove that that's your self-worth and then heal it instead of saying, oh my god, it was never mine to begin to begin with, so I think that it's.
Emma Dunwoody:It's also one of those places where Human design can really help us go. Okay, i can just draw a line in the sand. It's a big part of who I am that I've got really good at is like just drawing a line in the sand and moving forward, and then you can reflect back to learn the lessons. But really understanding that once you know Where you're being so, so heavily impacted by the other, you can just say, okay, that's not me and start to create something new. If that's not me, then what am I? what, what? what does it feel like to be in my own aura? How do I feel before I get in order with somebody else and start to rewrite that story?
Corissa Stepp:Yeah, that's such a good, that's such good information. I mean I I share that with clients too. It's like if you're in a relationship, right, and you feel like you're not sure if it's like actually a healthy relationship or not healthy relationship. Or you're not sure if you want to stay in the relationship or not saying the relationship It's like, okay, well, how do you feel when you're not with that person? right, because then you can, you're in your own energy, you know what that feels like. And then when they come back into the home or whatever you are, then how do you feel? and how do you feel right after the interaction? Like taking note of, like how you feel right before and then taking note of how you feel right after.
Corissa Stepp:If You're not feeling good when you're with that person for some reason, that's your clue to get curious and start digging deeper as to why, like what's going on. Because you know, for women who Have endured any kind of narcissistic abuse, a lot of times especially if we're dealing with a covert narcissist The there's such subtle behaviors that are happening that are below your level of awareness That you may not even be able to put your finger on. Like why don't I feel good in this relationship, why does something feel off? Why do I feel like you know There's something not right here? and sometimes it could just be like you may not realize, like you're being manipulated in some way, you're being gaslit, you're maybe they're like lying to you. Maybe you can see that they're not actually being their authentic selves. You can pick up very quickly that there's some kind of Incoherence between who they are and who they're showing up as when you're with them, and that can really be a sign.
Corissa Stepp:The other thing is is that, particularly with narcissistic mothers, a lot of times narcissistic mothers will Treat their daughters almost as an extension of them. They don't see that there's even a delineation between their daughter and them. So there can be a lot of Pressure for the daughter to. The daughter will feel coming from the mother that they have to be like her in some way, because The narcissistic mother is going to do a lot of belittling and criticizing And they're going to try to control the daughter to behave in a certain way to. You know, look a certain way to show up a certain way to achieve certain things, because it's a reflection Like that your, her daughter is a direct reflection in her mind of her and, of course, she can't handle being rejected, because that's her core. Wound is like I can't be rejected, i have to be liked because I can't feel unlovable, right.
Corissa Stepp:Yeah and so that could be a very It's a very tough relationship to kind of heal from, because a daughter growing up with a narcissistic mother is being conditioned before she's even aware She's being conditioned for all of these things.
Emma Dunwoody:Yeah, oh, my god, i resonate with all of that, all of that, and it's it the piece that I think is, you know, in my own personal journey, i think one of the greatest things is really Uncovering and connecting to my own sovereignty that it isn't about Someone else, that it is actually about me. And Yeah, i definitely. I didn't necessarily have to, i say I didn't have to look a certain way, but I absolutely did. But it was like living up to those expectations. I know that, as a parent, one of the things that I'm so conscious of is really understanding my kids design, so that I can parent them the way that they need to be parented. And I have two line four kids.
Emma Dunwoody:So relationships are paramount for them, not only the relationship with me and their dad, but also the relationships they have with their friends. And if I didn't have human design, then I wouldn't have put that same priority on relationships because, you know, i am very I'm a three, five, as I said, i'm very independent. I never needed to have those close friendships, even though I had them, i didn't have the same priority. You know, i'm a line three, for goodness sake, like I make and break bonds, that's the way I'm designed to be. So having that ability to be able to say, oh no, emma, you need to prioritize it. They're prioritizing a friendship, even if, like one of my kids in particular, both of them have been through it, but one of them in particular just kept making bad choices. But I was like, well, these relationships are fundamental for him, so I need to be the one that doesn't break, that doesn't let him down, that doesn't whatever, so that he can learn to continue to upgrade that relationship. So I think so much of this gives us an insight, you know, it gives us the power to be able to hold space for the people that we love, to really see what is true for them.
Emma Dunwoody:I mean, and even with the whole narcissistic mother, like I get it, i get it, like her design really helped me understand why she behaved the way she behaved And some of the choices that she made. Instead of as a kid, i always thought that it was my fault, i thought there was something, as we do, we always think the irony of before we have an ego, where the most egocentric will ever be, kind of thing. We think everything's our fault, but it doesn't come from the ego, it's just because we're an extension of our mother, right. But I think that what I love about human design is that we can detangle from all of that. It's a model. It's not who we are, it's our potential. It's a roadmap, it's the ability for us to step into our greatness.
Emma Dunwoody:But, as you said, we have to bring it to life. But as that, you know, the third person, if you like, or the person that gets to hold space for others, it also gives us the ability to hold the correct space. You know, if maybe my mother had known that I was a line five and she's projecting all her shit onto me and all the expectations and da-da-da, maybe she would have treated me differently, maybe she could have done something different. And I think that is what's so powerful that it gives us this ability to for ourselves, empower ourselves, but really raise a completely different generation of adults that love themselves, back themselves, know how they're actually designed to make decisions, that they can prioritize what feels correct for them and what doesn't, and know that you know, the more that they love themselves is the more that they can give love to others. So, yeah, i think it's incredibly powerful.
Corissa Stepp:Oh, i love that. And the other thing that I wanted to say is, like, as you were talking, it's like human design's also giving you the gift of forgiveness, right, like, because it's not that the human design's giving you like the excuse as to why you could see how your mother was that way or whatnot, although it just helped you come to understand Yeah, Her better, yeah, right. And then when you understand something, you can heal from it, because you can't heal anything you don't understand, in my opinion, and it allows you to come from a greater place, because now you're in your alignment right with who you are. It allows you to come from a place of deep compassion. You know for her and the circumstances And you know, i'm sure she had her own, probably childhood trauma and things like that that happened that would have caused her to behave and become who she was.
Corissa Stepp:But you got to break what I love, like when I'm bringing this back to you, it's like you got to break that cycle now, because a lot of times the cycle can kind of repeat. It becomes a generational thing. Yeah, you get to break that cycle because now you're supporting your children to be who they are, without placing expectations or projecting out onto them, right? Because the fifth line it's like people will project onto you, but the projection can kind of also go the other way. It can go both ways, you know, in some ways. And so I love that, like, you're able to use this as a way to now empower your children so that they can be who they are and feel safe being who they are.
Corissa Stepp:Because I think a lot of it does come down to safety too, right? Like when we live with a narcissistic parent, we don't feel safe being who we are because who we are is not accepted. We have to be them or we have to be the version of us that's going to be accepted by them. And that's true even for someone with the defined G Center, right? Because you know, one of the conditioning questions for like the defined G Center is will I be accepted? I know who I am, but will I be accepted? Right? It's kind of like almost the same question, just two sides of a different.
Emma Dunwoody:You know two different sides of the same coin. I actually sometimes think that define, like in my experience, i sometimes think that defined G Center wrestles with it more than the undefined G Center, because at some level, you know, at some level I knew that I, when push came to shove, i would just fit in, whereas all my friends, clients, people in my community that have the defined G Center, my kids both, have defined G Centers And that's a big deal. It's a really big deal that they, you know to be loved as they are, as you know who they are. So, yeah, i reckon and I think that's one of the things for me as well with human design is like making sure we do maintain everything as an experiment, like, yes, we have these great people who are teaching the knowledge from, you know, back when Ra brought it all in, but it's also, it's brand spanking new And we need to keep experimenting with it. We need to keep upgrading it and improving it, because it's not perfect. It's not. It's certainly not been brought in in a perfect way. It was brought in in exactly the way it needed to come in. It was shocking and uncomfortable and negative. But would it be as popular as it is today without the shock value Or maybe not A lot of it for me is, i think that it came in exactly the way it needed to come in, because it needed to have a really big impact at the time.
Emma Dunwoody:It really had to cut through. And saying that, i think it's important for all of us that are in human design to be able to bring our own voice to it, to bring our own experiment to the table, so that we can, you know, really create something extraordinary and not, you know, just not another tool that gets everyone stuck in some sort of dogma. You know, for me, it has this power to set people free, or it's just gonna do the same thing that religion or other profiling tools can do and get people stuck, and I just think that there's so much more power in human design than that. Yeah, absolutely.
Corissa Stepp:And even if you think about, like when it came in like 30 years ago, right Like, we were, very like where we were, you know, collectively at that point in time was very different than kind of where we are right now and where we're headed.
Corissa Stepp:So yeah, the upgrade is necessary, and so you know I'd love for you to tell listeners how they can kind of, you know, work with you, but also more about this transformational human design, like how they can kind of get exposure to that from you. And I know you've got a rich, rich, rich rich, a retreat coming up and stuff, so please share it everyone. So many good things.
Emma Dunwoody:Like. First and foremost, i apologize to everyone who is not a manifesting generator and it comes to have a look at any of my website or my Instagram or whatever it might be, because there is a lot, but, yeah, we have a bunch of really fun things. My community, it's a membership we call it a membership, but it's really it's more of a community HDX, which is basically all the knowledge, all the experimentation in an incredibly like-minded, supportive community set up for people to really shine. The Human Design Podcast yeah, thank you. The Human Design Podcast is my podcast, which breaks everything down.
Emma Dunwoody:I try to make human design really simple so that it can be integratable, because what's the point in having all of this knowledge if you can't actually live it? There's no point, in my opinion. And then transformational human design is really my model. That I've created from my 20 years of experience and research and training, with everything in transformational coaching and then putting together or including human design, the gene keys and NLP. So, in my belief is, again, it's creating that cohesion between mind, body, spirit and, of course, being an MG with the 3420, it's being able to create behavioral change fast, being able to create alignment and authenticity fast, getting results fast and in a way that just feels like you.
Corissa Stepp:I love it. I absolutely love it. Emma, thank you so much for all the work that you're doing in the world. I'm gonna promote HDX, the Human Design Experiment that the membership group that Emma was talking about. I've been a part of it now for I think it's been about two years. I love it. Coming up on three soon, i think, or I'm starting the third year. Anyway, i love it. it's amazing. it's a great resource.
Corissa Stepp:I've studied with Karen Craig-Parker up through level four so I'll make them a certified quantum human design specialist, but I still find so much value in Emma's stuff as well. So if you are learning it elsewhere and you just need another perspective or someone else to explain things in a different way, that maybe resonates with you, and just even the community itself that Emma has built and created the community itself is amazing, and even a few of the guests that I've had on this podcast are people that I met through Emma's community, whether they were guests on her podcast or they were in the community already, and so just the most amazing people ever. So, emma, thank you so much for the impact you've had, even on my life, and I'm so excited for listeners to have heard this conversation and I hope they got a lot of value out of it, so thank you.
Emma Dunwoody:Well, thank you, and that is exactly what lights me up, and I'm hearing that we definitely. It's exactly what we're there for to create a supportive community and environment and to see things differently. We do things outside of the box. We run the experiment. It's in real life, human design, not just the knowledge, and we have so many leaders in that community That's one of the things we were just talking about recently. Like the leaders are in there because these are all people who really wanna have an impact. So, thank you so much And clearly you're one of those leaders that are here to have an impact, so I'm so grateful to have you in my world. Thanks, lovely.
Corissa Stepp:Thank you, emma. All right listeners until next time, be well. If you're hearing this message, that means you've listened all the way to the end, and for that I am truly grateful. If you enjoyed this episode and found it valuable, would you mind leaving us a review? wherever you listen to podcasts and sharing it with others? If you'd like to connect with me for one-on-one coaching or human design reading, you can find me on my website or on social media. Also, if you have a topic you'd like me to discuss on a future episode, please DM me. Be sure to tune in next week for another episode of Stepping into Meaningful Relationships.